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|align=center colspan=3| '''1910-1920'''
 
[[Alfa Romeo 24hp|24hp]] | [[Alfa Romeo 40-60hp|40-60hp]] | [[Alfa Romeo Castagna| Castagna]] | [[Alfa Romeo Torpedo|Torpedo]] | [[Alfa Romeo RL|RL]] | [[Alfa Romeo RM|RM]] | [[Alfa Romeo P2|P2]] | [[Alfa Romeo 6c 1500|6c 1500]] | [[Alfa Romeo 6c 1750|6c 1750]]
 
  
  
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If you look at [[Fusi]] or [[Tabucchi]], and the 6c2300B 2 carb car serial numbers, it would appear that 214 6c2300Bs were made with the two carb manifold. Fusi contradicts this and says only 106 total 6c2300B 2 carb cars were built, and calls them all 6c2300B [[Mille Miglia]]s.
'''1920-1940'''
 
  
[[Alfa Romeo 8c 2300|8c 2300]] | [[Alfa Romeo 6c 1900|6c 1900]] | [[Alfa Romeo 6c 2300|6c 2300]] | [[Alfa Romeo 8c 2900|8c 2900]] | [[Alfa Romeo 12 cylinder|12 cylinder]] | [[Alfa Romeo P3|P3]] | [[Alfa Romeo 1935 Twin-engine|1935 Twin-engine]]
 
 
 
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'''1940-1950'''
 
 
[[Alfa Romeo 158|158]] | [[Alfa Romeo 6c 2500|6c 2500]]
 
 
 
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'''1950-1960'''
 
 
[[Alfa Romeo 1900|1900]] | [[Alfa Romeo AR 51|AR 51]] The 'Matta' off road [[4WD]]. | [[Alfa Romeo Disco Volante|Disco Volante]] | [[Alfa Romeo Giulietta| Giulietta]] | [[Alfa Romeo Giulietta|1.3]] | [[Alfa Romeo 2000|2000]]
 
  
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|813801-813804  || 4
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|813810-813915  || 105
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|815001-815101  || 100
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'''1960-1970'''
 
  
[[Alfa Romeo Giulia|Giulia]] | [[Alfa Romeo Giulia|Super 1600]] | [[Alfa Romeo Giulia|TI]] | [[Alfa Romeo Giulia SS|Sprint Speciale]] | [[Alfa Romeo TZ]] | [[Alfa Romeo GTA]] | [[Alfa Romeo 2600]] | [[Alfa Romeo Tipo 33/3]] | [[Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale]] | [[Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce|Spider Veloce]] [http://hem.passagen.se/arspider/RAM02.htm] |  [[Alfa Romeo 1750|1750]]
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The 6c2300Bs with the 2 carb manifold were first called [[Pescara]] (but as far as I am aware, not officially), then when they won their class in the 1937 MM, they were called Mille Miglia. I have never seen a 6c2300A (solid axle) or B (swing axle) with a chassis plate that says Pescara; only ones saying [[Gran Turismo]] (on the solid axle 2 carb cars) and Mille Miglia (on the 2 carb swing axle cars).
  
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As to the 6c2300A (solid axle cars), again, their chassis plates all say Gran Turismo. NONE say Pescara. After their win in the 1934 Pescara sports car race, they were called Pescaras, but never officially. It should also be noted that the winning car in that race in 1934 was NOT from Scuderia Ferrari, but from Scuderia [[Ambrosiana]], driven by [[Cortese]].
  
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As far as I can tell, Scuderia Ferrari never had any 6c2300As, 6c2300Bs or 6c2500s at all...
'''1970-1980'''
 
  
[[Alfa Romeo Montreal|Montreal]] (1970&ndash;1977) | [[Alfa Romeo Alfasud|Alfasud]]  (1972&ndash;1983) | [[Alfa Romeo Alfetta|Alfetta]] (1972&ndash;1977) | [[Alfa Romeo Arna|Arna]] | [[Alfa Romeo Berlina|Berlina]] | [[Alfa Romeo GTV|GTV]] | [[Alfa Romeo Guilia Nuova Super 1300|Guilia Nuova Super 1300]]
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I personally believe that some of the 6c2300B Mille Miglias were renumbered and were bored out to 2500cc and had 3 carb manifolds, and were actually Tipos 256 6c2500s or pre-war 6c2500SSs (19 plus 17 cars respectively)
  
  
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'''1980-1990'''
 
  
[[Alfa Romeo GTV|GTV]] | [[Alfa Romeo GTV6|GTV6]] | [[Alfa Romeo Sprint|Sprint]] | [[Alfa Romeo 33|33]] (1983&ndash;1994) | [[Alfa Romeo 90|90]] (1984&ndash;1986) | [[Alfa Romeo 75|Alfa Romeo Milano]] (Euro 75) (1985&ndash;1992) | [[Alfa Romeo 164|164]] (1987&ndash;1998)
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==See also==
  
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[[Alfa Romeo 6C]]
  
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{{Alfa Romeo Pre War Timeline}}
'''1990-2000'''
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{{Alfa Romeo}}
 
 
[[Alfa Romeo SZ|SZ]] | [[Alfa Romeo GTV|GTV]] (1995&ndash;present) | [[Alfa Romeo Spider|Spider]] (1998&ndash;present) | [[Alfa Romeo 145|145]] (1995&ndash;2001) | [[Alfa Romeo 146|146]] (1995&ndash;2001) | [[Alfa Romeo 155|155]] (1992&ndash;1998) | [[Alfa Romeo 156|156]] - [[Alfa Romeo 156#GTA|GTA]] (1997&ndash;present) | [[Alfa Romeo 166|166]] (1998&ndash;present)
 
 
 
 
 
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'''2000 onwards'''
 
 
 
[[Alfa Romeo GT|GT]] (2004&ndash;present) | [[Alfa Romeo 147|147]] - [[Alfa Romeo 147#GTA|GTA]] (2001&ndash;present) | [[Alfa Romeo 159|159]] | [[Alfa Romeo 167|167]] (2007?) |  [[Alfa Romeo Brera|Brera]] (Preview-2005) | [[Alfa Romeo Spyder|Spyder]] (2007?)  | [[Alfa Romeo Kamal|Kamal]] (Expected-2007)
 
 
 
 
 
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'''Fiat Group brands'''
 
 
 
[[Abarth]] | [[Alfa Romeo]] | [[Autobianchi]] | [[Ferrari]] | [[Fiat]] | [[Lancia]] | [[Innocenti]] | [[Maserati]]
 
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[http://www.fiatgroup.com Fiat Group Corporate Website] | [http://www.fiat.com Fiat Auto Website]
 
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Latest revision as of 16:25, 6 June 2009

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Alfa Romeo 6c 2300


If you look at Fusi or Tabucchi, and the 6c2300B 2 carb car serial numbers, it would appear that 214 6c2300Bs were made with the two carb manifold. Fusi contradicts this and says only 106 total 6c2300B 2 carb cars were built, and calls them all 6c2300B Mille Miglias.


Production
813801-813804 4
813805-813809 5
813810-813915 105
815001-815101 100
Total 214


The 6c2300Bs with the 2 carb manifold were first called Pescara (but as far as I am aware, not officially), then when they won their class in the 1937 MM, they were called Mille Miglia. I have never seen a 6c2300A (solid axle) or B (swing axle) with a chassis plate that says Pescara; only ones saying Gran Turismo (on the solid axle 2 carb cars) and Mille Miglia (on the 2 carb swing axle cars).

As to the 6c2300A (solid axle cars), again, their chassis plates all say Gran Turismo. NONE say Pescara. After their win in the 1934 Pescara sports car race, they were called Pescaras, but never officially. It should also be noted that the winning car in that race in 1934 was NOT from Scuderia Ferrari, but from Scuderia Ambrosiana, driven by Cortese.

As far as I can tell, Scuderia Ferrari never had any 6c2300As, 6c2300Bs or 6c2500s at all...

I personally believe that some of the 6c2300B Mille Miglias were renumbered and were bored out to 2500cc and had 3 carb manifolds, and were actually Tipos 256 6c2500s or pre-war 6c2500SSs (19 plus 17 cars respectively)


See also

Alfa Romeo 6C

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